From Lincoln to Obama: 'Elusive Victories' in War
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Defense Secretary Robert McNamara and President Lyndon Baines Johnson in the Oval Office
( LBJ Library photo by Yoichi Okamoto )
( LBJ Library photo by Yoichi Okamoto )
Produced by Jillian Weinberger and Robert Balint