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Speaker 3: America from a Dolly's eye view [music] is this quivering mass of irreconcilable contradictions.
Speaker 4: I'm going to be both. I'm going to be adored by church ladies and the gays.
Dolly: Yes, the sexuality, the spirituality, the sensuality, that's exactly who I am.
Speaker 6: She's just a beautiful fountain of goodness.
Dolly: It is me.
Speaker 7: 100% Dolly is an extractive capitalist.
Dolly: I always say I give God the credit; I just want the cash.
Speaker 8: In terms of cultural power, I think she's like second to Walt Disney.
Jad Abumrad: This is Jad Abumrad from Radiolab and More Perfect. For the last two years, I've been following Dolly Parton around the world-
Dolly: [laughs]
Jad Abumrad: -trying to figure out who she is.
Dolly: You'd be surprised to know who I am.
Jad: That's why we're here. We're trying to find out.
Dolly: I know, but you're never going to find everything out.
Jad: [chuckles]
Dolly: I'm a mystery to myself.
Jad: I'm trying to answer the seemingly simple question, what is Dolly Parton's America?
Dolly: Well--
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Jad: Answers coming soon on Dolly Parton's America.
Dolly: [laughs]
Speaker 10: This week on The New Yorker Radio Hour, I'll talk with presidential historian Jon Meacham on the stakes of a Trump indictment and a Trump revival.
Jon Meacham: I think the person at the top matters enormously, obviously, but this is up to all of us. It is a perennial struggle between our worst instincts and the better angels of our nature.
Speaker 10: Jon Meacham on the New Yorker Radio Hour from WNYC Studios. Listen wherever you get your podcasts.
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