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Brian Lehrer: It's The Brian Lehrer Show on WNYC. Good morning, everyone. Let's get right to it. New York City primary results such as they are, we know who won the mayoral primary. That's the Republican mayoral primary, Curtis Sliwa, the conservative talk show host, and Guardian Angels founder got 72% of the in-person vote. That was enough for the AP to declare him the winner without waiting for the absentee ballots to be counted and no rank-choice in that race because there are only two candidates, so get ready New York for Curtis Sliwa versus a Democrat to be named later.

We can say that Democrat will probably be Eric Adams but we can't say we know that. Here are some numbers from the in-person vote tallies for first place. In other words, what they released last night, was all the early in-person vote totals, and all of yesterday's in-person vote totals just for first place, no second place rankings or below, and no absentee ballots yet.

Of those first-place votes by in-person voters, Adams got 32%, Maya Wiley got 22%, Kathryn Garcia got 20%, Yang scored a disappointing 12% of the first place in-person votes and he actually conceded last night. Everyone else was at 5% or less. The question is, did either Wiley or Garcia get ranked above Adams by enough voters who didn't rank them number one to overtake Adams at the end.

I know what I just said is a little mathematically dense, but it makes sense if you can take a minute to digest it. Did either Wiley or Garcia get ranked above Adams by enough voters who didn't rank them number one, to overcome Adams's 10 or 12 point lead at the end? We'll explain a little further as we go. There's a fascinating map of the in-person votes made by Steve Ron Milewski of the CUNY Graduate Center. It shows what you might have guessed more or less. Adams totally raped in the Bronx, and Eastern central Brooklyn, and Southeast Queens. Also did well in Upper Manhattan.

It looks like Garcia won in Park Slope. What looks to me on the map though it's not named, like Brooklyn Heights. Also, most of what we might call majority-white Manhattan, Manhattan below Harlem, except for Chinatown won by Yang and some of the East Village won by Wiley. Yang also won in Northeast Queens, the heavily Asian American areas from Flushing to the Nassau County Line, and also in Borough Park and Williamsburg according to this map. He did win over some groups of Orthodox Jews in significant numbers.

Other Wiley's strongholds were Greenpoint and Ridgewood and Northwest Queens, overlapping with the AOC Congressional District, in Queens, in Astoria, and it looks like Long Island City and maybe Sunny Side. Again, if I'm reading the map exactly right. That's a partial geographic breakdown, which also suggests the demographic breakdown for what it's worth. From what I'm seeing reported as vote totals for each candidate. I add them up, and turnout by historical standards may actually have been pretty good. More than 800,000 in-person votes with possibly another 200,000 to arrive by mail, a million votes in a mayoral primary is still only maybe 25% turnout, so bad in that way, but it would be strong compared to many other primaries, like the mayoral primary in 2013 or even 2001.

There are other races to talk about too. Brad Lander won the in-person vote for comptroller over Corey Johnson, and apparent win for the progressive wing of the Democratic Party if it holds up. Also, many progressives apparently won in city council districts. The more progressive Alvin Bragg leads by four points in the Manhattan DA's race over the somewhat less so Tali Farhadian Weinstein but with the absentee ballots yet to be counted. Elizabeth Crowley might score an upset in the Queens Borough President race. It's looking good for Antonio Reynoso so far for Brooklyn Borough President.

Did you see, maybe the biggest story of the night, Buffalo Democrats seem to have nominated a Democratic socialist for mayor. India Walton, a nurse, and community activist, and first-time candidate, mostly unknown until recently, seems to have defeated Buffalo's four-term incumbent Democratic Mayor Byron Brown in a primary. The New York Times says, if this holds up after the absentee ballots are counted, India Walton would become Buffalo's first woman mayor and the first socialist mayor of any major American city since 1960. The last one was Frank P. Zeidler in Milwaukee. Here she is, 40 seconds India Walton.

India Walton: The entire intent of this campaign is to draw down power and resources to the ground level and to the hands of the people. When we think about socialism, we're perfectly fine with socialism for the rich, we will bail out Wall Street and banks and give a billion dollars in tax incentives to one of the richest people in the world to build an empty Tesla factory in South Buffalo. When it comes to providing the resources that working families need to thrive, socialism becomes scary at that point. I'm very proud to be a Democratic socialist. I am proud to have the support of Buffalo DSA and National DSA.

Brian Lehrer: Proud to have the support of Buffalo DSA and National DSA, DSA Democratic Socialists of America. India Walton making history in Buffalo. One more clip before Brigid Bergin and Liz Kim join me, Eric Adams last night gave quite the barn-burner of a speech. Here's a stretch where he talks about his mother who recently passed away.

Eric Adams: Mom transition in March. Mommy loves us so much. My siblings were really sometimes she's thorough because she loved us all, but she adored me.

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Eric Adams: She was betrayed. She's betrayed like so many other mothers and fathers and families. She was betrayed when we could not have the ability to purchase food and we went to get food from the city and it was food that fed to chronic diseases, process meat, and the cheese filled with salt and the powdered eggs. She was betrayed when she had to work three jobs to provide for her six children even in her arthritic state.

She was betrayed when she walked through the prison to get my brother and me after being abused by police officers and they treated her in a degraded fit place. They looked at her and laughed at her clothing, and her cane that she leaned on. She was betrayed when she was unable to get the basic services from our city agencies. We've had a system of betrayal. She's betrayed when her baby had a learning disability and no one diagnosed it and gave him the opportunity to provide. If you don't educate you will incarcerate.

Brian Lehrer: Eric Adams last night, paying tribute to his mother making a joke about how she really did love him best of all the kids, haha, but also really laying it out in class and race terms. Part of the heart of the campaign, the working-class African American candidate appeal that he got this far on, there woven into that story about his mother, very representative, I think of the Eric Adams campaign so far. If you've never heard him give a speech, if he does go on to be the next mayor of New York City, you're going to hear him give a lot of speeches. There he really whipped it up.

With me now the two reporters who most closely covered the mayoral campaign for WNYC and Gothamist, Brigid Bergin and Elizabeth Kim. I was up until midnight watching speeches, but I didn't have stories to file after that. I hope you two got a few hours of sleep anyway. Good morning, Brigid. Good morning, Liz.

Brigid Bergin: Hey, Brian.

Elizabeth Kim: Hey, Brian.

Brian Lehrer: Brigid, let me get right to the math of it. How commanding is Eric Adams 10 point lead over Maya Wiley, 12 points over Kathryn Garcia with absentee ballots, and rank-choice voting calculations yet to come?

Brigid Bergin: You know Brian, one election night is like catnip for political reporters, the idea of rank-choice voting is just intoxicating. Adams has this 75,000 vote lead but when you look at the spread of all of these other candidates who had picked up first-choice votes, who were the second-choice votes for someone who picked paperboy prints as their number one, and who were the second-choice votes for a Shaun Donovan voter? It is going to be fascinating to see how these votes move. Are there enough votes there for a Maya Wiley or Kathryn Garcia to close the gap and overtake Adams? In that entire pool, absolutely there are votes there, but we know that Adams will obviously pick up some of those number twos and number threes as well but this is really going to be a huge test in something that I can't wait for next Tuesday night as tired as I am right now to see how these votes move.

Brian Lehrer: That's the next thing they will announce, is what the first tally of the rank choice votes based on the in-person votes next Tuesday.

Brigid Bergin: That's right, Brian. Next Tuesday, the board of elections will announce the first ranked tally of the votes. That's when we will see how some of these votes shift, we'll see if Eric Adams maintains or grows his lead. I think what is quite likely is even if that is the case, that the gap will narrow at least between the first and second-place finishers and it is possible. While it is not what happens in the majority of ranked-choice elections, it is possible for someone to come from behind to eclipse the person who finishes in the first place on primary night. I thought Eric Adams's comments last night were very interesting where he acknowledged that there would be twos and threes and fours, but he was truly just basking in this moment of being the highest-rated first-choice selection for the most New Yorkers, even though he didn't cross that 50% threshold.

Brian Lehrer: Liz is this where the Andrew Yang, Kathryn Garcia, co-campaigning the last few days might come into play? That Garcia might just have a lot more second-place votes than Wiley or Adams for that matter and actually be the finalist against Adams when it gets down to two because Andrew Yang was going around saying, "List Kathryn Garcia second if you're voting for me first."

Elizabeth Kim: Well, that's precisely the calculation that her campaign was making when they struck that Alliance and campaigned with him over the weekend and into Monday. They are really hoping that they get not just from Andrew Yang but from the other candidates, a lot of twos and threes. She went out of her way not to criticize or not to really attack any of the other candidates. She hopes that that's in her favor. She's not polarizing, I would say compared to Adams or compared to Yang. We'll see. Like Brigid said, it's a lot, the margin. I think they were hoping that it would be closer like this, the three of them would be bunched up more closely but last night, she didn't concede by any means. They are really saying that we need to count, we need to do this rank choice and we'll see what happens.

Brian Lehrer: Andrew Yang, however, did concede last night, he officially conceded the race. Here's a few seconds of him doing that.

Andrew Yang: I am conceding this race. Though we're not sure ultimately who the next mayor is going to be, but whoever that person is, I will be very happy to work with them to help improve the lives of the 8.3 million people who live in our great city. I'd urge everyone here to do the same.

Brian Lehrer: Brigid, here's the question. Does the Yang concession mean anything for rank choice voting or does it just go on as if he didn't drop out?

Brigid Bergin: It doesn't mean anything in terms of he has no control in shifting his votes per se. What it means is there will be no objections filed on his behalf by an election lawyer seeking to potentially kick out absentee ballots that could not be in his favor. I think that that speech was actually quite gracious and what you couldn't hear but came through on the podium was folks saying around him, that's a leader, that's a real leader. I think in terms of-- it's not going to change the process that the board of elections follows for how it will do the rank choice tallies but it's a real signal that he is not going to be out there trying to push back on any results.

I think in many ways he also talked about how he and his wife, Evelyn hoped to be in public service again in the future. He said very explicitly that, he hopes to work with whoever the winner is to help the city's recovery, for a candidate who ran the majority of his campaign on this very optimistic message about how to build the city back, I think he finished much as he started with that sense of optimism and hope for the city, which was extremely gracious.

Brian Lehrer: Now, listeners your questions about, or interpretations of the New York primary results as much as they are known so far. Welcome here at 646-435-7280 or tweet @BrianLehrer. Anything on any New York city race, we'll get to some of the others besides mayor as we go. Is there anyone listening in Buffalo this morning, or anyone with ties to Buffalo who wants to explain to clueless downstaters what just happened up there with Democratic Socialists and Working Families Party-backed Democrat, India Walton beating the long-time democratic mayor, Byron Brown? 646-435-7280, 646-435-7280, or tweet @BrianLehrer with our Liz Kim and Brigid Bergin, who've been primarily covering the mayoral race, month after month after month. One thing we know, the city's next mayor will not be a white male, and here's Kathryn Garcia as her candidacy goes on to the absentee and rank choice voting rounds. Speaking last night.

Kathryn Garcia: The women came out because you know what, it is time for a woman to lead this city. I know that we're not going to know a lot more tonight. I want to thank everyone who is here and everyone who has been a part of this journey, it has been phenomenal, and you know what? I think we need to party like it's 1999

Brian Lehrer: Here's Maya Wiley as her candidacy goes on.

Maya Wiley: I don't know what New Yorkers have chosen tonight, not any one of us do because the votes are still being counted. I will tell you what is true. Every single vote will count.

Brian Lehrer: Liz, you were at Garcia headquarters last night or the Garcia party space. What was that like?

Elizabeth Kim: She had a very nice space. This is a space in Bushwick that her sister has a restaurant at. There was an outdoor portion, an indoor portion. I would say, estimate the crowds at around 100 or so people but it was relatively low-key. I was watching on Twitter what was going on at Adams and Wiley. It seemed maybe there was a lot more dancing and fun to be had at those parties. Garcia's party, it was a lot of people, they were very optimistic, but I would say they were a more controlled crowd. That moment where she says, "I think we need to party like it's 1999." I can tell you no one was partying like it was 1999. It was not that kind of crowd.

Brian Lehrer: Well, on partying like it was 2019, to what degree was it a post-pandemic scene without masks, and people sharing finger food, or was it at all?

Elizabeth Kim: I think that was more of an issue at the Adams party but because she had this set up where there was this outdoor space that led into an indoor space that had plenty of ventilation. It didn't feel that way at all. I said it was a large event space. For relatively, not that many people so was plenty of space. Maybe at one point, the reporters are huddled together trying to snap pictures and get video and sound bites but other than that, it didn't at all the food was served outside. People eating where they were doing it outside without masks. I didn't see anyone wearing a mask, but it didn't feel unsafe.

Brian Lehrer: Jim in the south Bronx WNYC. Hi Jim, thanks for calling in.

Jim: Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my call. I just want to point out that together the three centrists, Adams, Garcia, and Yang got over 60% of the vote while the so-called, progressive Wiley got just over 20. I'm absolutely delighted to see how a week the overall support among people actually vote are for these so-called faux progressives like Wiley and that center of the Democratic party.

Brian Lehrer: You say false Progressive's, maybe they're real progressive, but you just don't agree with them.

Jim: I don't think the actual policies are progressive. That's why I call them faux progressive, but I'm really delighted that they did so poorly when you consider, the vote totals.

Brian Lehrer: You can go further with that, what would a real progressive set of policies be to you?

Jim: I've said this on your show before Brian, none of these so-called progressives have anything like a real industrial policy that will produce productive jobs for people. What they want instead is to make more and more people work for the state through transfer payments. That is not a progressive policy and although some of these people call themselves Democratic Socialists. If you spend some time in Europe, you'll see that these Democratic Socialists have are very, very big on job training, on industrial policy, on making it possible for people to have productive jobs and be contributing members of society, not just waiting on the next government check.

Brian Lehrer: Interesting, Jim, thank you very much for your call. Let's go to another caller. Virginia in the West Village you're on WNYC. Hi Virginia.

Virginia: Hi, how are you? Hey, I'm not really a math expert, but I was looking at the number. Adam got approximately 25,300 first-choice votes and among all the other candidates, there were 54,500 first-choice votes. 68% of New Yorkers chose other candidates as their first choice. When Adam says, "New York City said, our first choice is Eric Adams." Or you Brian, you say like he's our highest first choice of new Yorkers. Is that actually true when so many more people chose other candidates as their first choice?

Brian Lehrer: I get the question I think, and I think both things are true. He is the highest first-choice candidate in terms of comparisons with all the other candidates and who got ranked first more than any other individual but yes, clearly he only got a minority of the first-choice votes altogether. Those that have been counted only a third of them, and that's why they have ranked-choice voting so they can figure out everybody else's second and third and fourth and fifth choice priorities to come up with the overall winner to get somebody above 50%.

Virginia: Got it. He did get more first choice as an individual. Yes, that's true.

Brian Lehrer: Virginia, thank you very much. On the math that she just recited, which was the same math that I was counting Liz in terms of total turnout, looks kind of pretty good, right? That's 250 for Adams, 750,000 for everybody else combined among the in-person-- 500 or so, forgive me for the other in-person votes combined, which makes a total of about 750 or 800,000 total in-person votes and when you add the likely absentee, total it's going to approach a million, which by historical standards is actually pretty good

Elizabeth Kim: Yes, that is very good. I think if you look at de Blasio and Brigid, maybe you can correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that around like 650, some odd thousand votes in 2013. We did surpass that and that was something that all of the campaigns were kind of speculating about was, would we have this expanded electorate? Last night people started chattering about it. The Yang campaign put out 900,000 and then there was a lot of back and forth. Is that realistic? Now it turns out like they were right. It turns out that more people came out to vote in this election that was considered one of the most consequential elections in decades.

Brigid Bergin: I have a slightly different take, not to be an election Debbie-downer, but I do think it is important when we talk about the turnout to think about we had a primary that was open to all Democratic and all Republican voters. There was a city-wide primary for Republican voters. When we look at the turnout, I think you need to make the frame who turned out for the top of the ticket contests for the Democrats and the Republicans. When we look at that and we compare that to 2013, absolutely we saw an increase in the number of raw voters who turned out.

It was about 772,000 in 2013, was about a 23% voter turnout. When you look at the turnout from in-person votes so far, it's about 853,000. Even if we assume that another 100,000 of those absentee ballots will come in and count, that's still only about a 25% turnout. The raw vote totals more and that's a good thing, but the electorate has also gotten bigger. I think one of the things we saw was actually that the turnout among the Republicans was low because that was a race that was less competitive, had less attention. In terms of the overall electorate, we can keep doing more and maybe ranked-choice voting will get people excited to continue to keep digging more into some of these races.

Brian Lehrer: We will continue in a minute with Brigid Bergin and Liz Kim, and your calls. We have some breaking news from the AP from Buffalo in that Democratic Socialist, apparent victory up there. I see we have a caller from Buffalo. Whitney we see you, we'll take you right after the break, stay with us.

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Brian Lehrer on WNYC as we talk about New York primary results, such as they are, as much as they can be known with Brigid Bergin and Liz Kim. Breaking news from Buffalo, if you didn't hear the beginning of the show, I talked about what might be the most historic result from last night nationally, which is a democratic socialist candidate for mayor of Buffalo, upsetting the four-term incumbent democratic mayor Byron Brown, and their democratic primary. She's a nurse and community activist named India Walton. The AP just officially called the race. The AP saying just in the last few minutes, "Socialist community activists, India Walton defeats four-term Buffalo mayor in Democratic primary." Here she is, yes.

India Walton: Mommy, I won. Mommy, I'm the mayor of Buffalo. Well, not until January, but yes. Like yes. Yes, mom, I won.

Brian Lehrer: Whitney in Buffalo. You're on WNYC. Thank you very much for calling in.

Whitney: Yes, no problem. Thanks for having me.

Brian Lehrer: India Walton supporter?

Whitney: Yes, I've been an India Walton supporter from the beginning and I got to tell you, today is just euphoric. I'm still wrapping my head around the fact that she won and that this is real and it's happening and all that it means, but we are so thrilled.

Brian Lehrer: What does it mean? What do you think it could mean for people in Buffalo?

Whitney: We've had a mayor who has been in the developer's pockets, who has-- his administration has been like your typical political machine set-up, intimidation of city workers, all of that. The idea that we have somebody who is coming in with a progressive vision who wants to truly shake things up, not just say that as a talking point. Like I said, I'm still wrapping my head around what it all means, but I'm so excited so we're thrilled. I'm hearing from people like connections to the business class in Buffalo, those folks are just in total disbelief today that this has happened, but I think people who were on the ground who saw India's team, we're excited, we're shocked, but we're also not surprised. She's the real deal.

Brian Lehrer: Whitney. Thank you very much. Let's do another one. Here's Pam who just called in from Buffalo. Pam on WNYC. Hello from downstate.

Pam: Hi, Brian. Good to hear your voice in person, long-time listener, and sustaining member. I'm in the suburbs of Buffalo, so I don't get to vote on the mayoral race but if I had to venture a guess, I would say that the win for India has to do mostly with the police issues, the issues around policing last summer and all of the unrest. I think people are ready for a change in that regard.

Brian Lehrer: Pam, thank you very much for checking in. Now, Brigid Bergin, you're from Rochester. Did I say that right?

Brigid Bergin: That's right.

Brian Lehrer: I think people from downstate, they say Rochester, but it's really Rochester, right?

Brigid Bergin: That's right. We try to say it as quickly as possible, Rochester.

Brian Lehrer: Just get it out of the way. Say quickly and move on. If you live in Brooklyn, you think Rochester and Buffalo, oh, well, they're in the same place, but they're about what 90 miles apart?

Brigid Bergin: Yes, it's an hour and a half drive but I think it's so interesting to hear that last caller talk about how police issues she thinks were some of the factors in how people voted in Buffalo. Certainly I think that was also the case in Rochester where the two term mayor there, Lovely Warren was defeated by a gentleman named Malik Evans by 65%. Pretty resoundingly. Now Mayor Warren has faced a lot of scrutiny certainly in terms of the conduct of the Rochester police department, that's of course, where Daniel Prude the 41 year old black man who died last spring after being handcuffed while in the midst of a mental health crisis, that's where he had died.

It has later been reported that her administration has withheld some of the information related to the department's conduct. On top of that, she was also under indictment for some campaign finance issues and her husband was arrested for connection to an alleged cocaine ring. A lot of issues for Mayor Warren but yet clearly some change for Western New York and something really interesting I think when we think about the progressive movement in New York city, we so often think about it being rooted in New York.

We think about it being rooted in New York City. We think of people like Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez and some of the more energetic members of the state legislature who are here in New York City. I think when you think about that Buffalo mayoral race, it's a real sign that this progressive movement has roots and legs beyond just New York City and that potentially, way out there in Western New York, that there is organizing and a movement that is effecting change, not just in some of those national races that we look at but in a race that could affect city hall.

Brian Lehrer: Listeners later in the show we'll talk to Christina Greer who follows national politics as well as New York politics more about the national implications of the first actual socialist, Democratic Socialists of America candidate to win a major American cities mayoralty since 1960. That was actually the last time that a major American city had a socialist mayor, Frank Zeidler who left in 1960 as mayor of Milwaukee. We will talk later more about national implications of what happened in Buffalo last night but let's continue to talk about what happened in New York last night.

Let's move on to another race. Now Manhattan DA was another very closely watched race and as of last night, and again, these are the in-person vote totals. There no rank choice voting from Manhattan DA. These are in-person vote totals, but the absentee ballots have yet to be counted. Alvin Bragg was defeating Tali Farhadian Weinstein by four percentage points, 34% to 30% of the vote. We have a call coming in on that race and it's Bud on the east side of Manhattan. Bud, you're on WYC. Thank you for calling in.

Bud: Hello. Thank you very much. What either one of your reporters there agree with the statement that the problem that Tali Weinstein had in that race was too many women or stated another way had there been rank voting in that race she would be a very, very serious threat to Alvin Bragg now?

Brian Lehrer: May still be as that race is too close to call, but Liz or Brigid, I'm not sure that either of you directly covered that race, but any impression.

Brigid Bergin: I didn't cover that race. What my impression is that some of the other women in the race didn't necessarily align in terms of their policy approaches to the Manhattan DA's office, Farhadian Weinstein is probably a slightly more centered too left and that's there are other women candidates, some of whom were more to the right, so I'm not sure if that it was just a gender issue that's really what is deciding that race. Certainly, Alvin Bragg also had the endorsement of the New York Times, which I think in these races that are extremely crowded can help be a clarifying message to some voters. I'm not sure but again, since we haven't seen a rank choice voting actually reallocates votes in any of these races, it's hard to really make an assessment of how it could have impacted that race given that they didn't have it.

Brian Lehrer: I see Bud's argument, at least potentially. There were other progressive women in the race, Lucy Lang, Tahanie Aboushi got the AOC endorsement, and maybe if there was it's time for a woman to be Manhattan DA finally vote out there and they all got added together at my defeat Alvin Bragg, but that's if people even voted with that in mind. I'm going to be interested Liz to see in the mayoral race, if there's any sort of gender gap. I think from the math that got released, we've seen implied racial breakdowns, how well Eric Adams apparently did among Black New York voters.

How well Andrew Yang obviously did again among Asian American New York voters. Kathryn Garcia did very well among white New York voters. Looks to me from the neighborhoods that are showing up as strong for my Wiley, that she did pretty well among white New York voters in certain progressive neighborhoods. One thing that we can't tell from the map is gender and yet when the recent Marist Poll came out, there was no gender gap. Eric Adams led among women just as he led among men, despite the potential for Wiley or Garcia to make that kind of history.

Elizabeth Kim: Right. I am so interested in what rank choice voting will reveal about gender. Just through my reporting, I felt that voters seem to latch on to this message of the first woman mayor a lot more in the late stages of the race. I heard a lot more men coming up to Garcia and saying, "It's time for a woman. It's time for a woman." I thought that was really very palpable when you talk to the electorates that they were very aware that this could be a historic moment. I really wondered, I looked at that Marist Poll and I looked at the gender breakdown between Garcia and Wiley, and it shows that there were slightly more men in the people surveyed, who were supporting her than women. I really wondered whether that might be that this might be some cultural moment in which men were now saying that, we need a woman mayor in charge now.

Brian Lehrer: I know I had a few male callers, it's as we say, a fairly unscientific exit poll when we take calls on this show, but I know I had a number of men call in and say, it's time for a woman mayor so I'm ranking Garcia and Wiley or Wiley and Garcia.

Elizabeth Kim: That was evident on the trail too. So like when I was following Garcia, I saw that like, I heard your caller say it. Then I saw that play out while she was campaigning at Union Square, on the Upper East Side, you really did feel it. Then I went to another event for Maya Wiley and the message again and again was, the first black woman mayor. She is going to be our first black woman mayor. Think about what that is going to mean to a generation of young girls of color. That message was very clear in the late stages of the race.

Brian Lehrer: Elizabeth Kim and Brigid Bergin, hear them on the radio about 24 hours a day these days. Maybe not so much in the coming days. Maybe they'll get a little break now that it's time to just wait for the next round of counting, which comes next Tuesday, but you can hear them on the radio. You can read them on Gothamist. Liz and Brigid, thanks for amazing work throughout this campaign and we'll talk.

Elizabeth Kim: Thanks, Brian.

Brigid Bergin: Thank you, Brian.

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