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Brian Lehrer: It's The Brian Lehrer Show on WNYC. Good morning, everyone. Let's say you're running for governor in a state with a primary tomorrow, maybe New Jersey, and the things going down in LA right now might be changing the backdrop for the election. Here's one example of how California Governor Gavin Newsom is actually responding to the workplace immigration raids, Trump's deployment of the National Guard, and immigration czar Tom Homan threatening to arrest Newsom if he gets in their way. Governor Newsom, tough guy.

Governor Newsom: Tough guy, why doesn't he do that? He knows where to find me. You know what? Lay your hands off four-year-old girls that are trying to get educated. Lay your hands off these poor people are just trying to live their lives, man. Trying to live their lives, paying their taxes. Been here 10 years. The fear, the horror, the hell is this guy? Come after me, arrest me. Let's just get it over with, tough guy.

Brian Lehrer: California Governor Gavin Newsom. Let's just say the New Jersey gubernatorial primary is not just about property taxes and affordable housing anymore. If it ever was. It's an issue for the New York City mayoral hopefuls too, with our Thursday night debate coming up this week. Later this hour, we'll talk about that and the surprise endorsement of Andrew Cuomo by State Senator Jessica Ramos of Queens on Friday, one of those who had been endorsed by the Working Families Party expressly as part of their effort to defeat Cuomo.

We'll also get into the end of the session news from the New York State Legislature. Including a medical aid and dying bill, which might pass after years of it coming close but falling short. Let's start in New Jersey, where primary day is basically upon us. Polls will be open tomorrow from 6:00 AM to 8:00 PM. We'll open the phones tomorrow for those of you who will be voting in the competitive and multi-candidate races for governor.

Today, we'll take your calls with questions as we'll try to clarify now how the Democratic and Republican primary hopefuls differ from each other on the key issues from Trump to congestion pricing, with our New Jersey maven, Nancy Solomon. If you have questions, call 212-433-WNYC on anything about Mikie Sherrill, Steve Fulop, Ras Baraka, Josh Gottheimer, Steve Sweeney, or Sean Spiller, or anything about Jack Ciattarelli, Bill Spadea, or Jon Bramnick. 212-433-WNYC. Call or text 212-433-9692. Hi, Nancy. Happy Primary Day Eve.

Nancy: Hi, Brian. If for the better part, better part of my adult life, I never thought that I was going to be a New Jersey maven, but here I am.

Brian Lehrer: Here you are. You're stuck with it, at least for the next few minutes.

Nancy Solomon: I love it, too.

Brian Lehrer: Well, starting with LA and the Gavin Newsom template, maybe it's too early for these candidates to have had a reaction yet, or maybe it's too late with primary day tomorrow, and they don't want to stick their necks out at this point. Are you seeing anything from either party's candidates?

Nancy Solomon: There was some social media action of statements opposing what President Trump has done in LA, but I haven't seen it go any further than that. I was listening to what you had to say about Gavin Newsom, and it's notable that we haven't really heard much from Governor Phil Murphy. I think that's one of the elements at play in this election is that in the Democratic primary, which is the primary that is much more competitive than the Republican side at this point. In the Democratic primary, voters are frustrated. They're afraid of what's happening with President Trump.

They are frustrated that they don't see their governor out there being a little more fierce. Even though I think you could argue that he-- it's not that he isn't doing anything, but it's a perception issue that they don't see him out there making public statements, showing up at demonstrations. I think that is at play here. What you get is a field of candidates who have really had to pivot and make a lot of their advertising and statements, be these I'm going to fight President Trump for you statements.

Brian Lehrer: Yes. Well, of course, Trump might force Murphy's hand. We already saw Mayor Baraka briefly detained at a protest in Newark at that ICE detention center, and Congresswoman LaMonica McIver arrested and charged. New Jersey was a preview, as I see it, to the larger-scale thing happening in LA now. President Trump is threatening to deploy troops to other cities, not just LA. He came out with that over the weekend.

We'll see where he might unleash a similar large-scale set of workplace raids, maybe targeted to where he wants a public confrontation for political purposes. I would guess if New Jersey is on his list, it probably won't come before tomorrow's vote.

Nancy Solomon: I don't think anything-- a huge amount is going to change here in Jersey by tomorrow. I think it's interesting what you're saying because I think most people felt outraged that the mayor of Newark would be arrested trying to join a congressional delegation to inspect a brand-new immigrant detention center. New in the sense that it just opened. Not a new building. We're talking there were protests in support of Baraka, maybe 200 people, 300 people, but we didn't see like massive protests and the citizens of Newark raising up to support their mayor. We haven't seen that conflict yet.

Brian Lehrer: Well, I think what happened in LA is they rose up en masse to support a lot of workers. Apparently Trump and his Homeland Security Department are saying there were also a lot of violent criminals, or at least alleged violent criminals who were rounding up. I think even by their numbers, the majority were not. A large-scale set of raids into workplaces. I saw Home Depot, I saw a donut shop. That's different, I think, in terms of the mass public reaction it might prompt than detaining the mayor when the mayor came to protest at a detention center.

That's the thing that I'll be watching to see where next, because Trump and Homan seem to be saying watch this space. This isn't just going to be LA, we're taking the show on the road. We'll see when and if that applies to New Jersey. How else have the Democratic candidates been competing with each other on how they interact with the Trump administration?

Nancy Solomon: They all have their tough talk speech about it, or part of their presentation to voters at all of their campaign events. They all have advertising. I think the most comical one was Josh Gottheimer, the congressman from Bergen County had an artificial intelligence-produced video showing him in the boxing ring with maybe stronger ab muscles than he normally has, fighting with President Trump. That was kind of comical.

Brian Lehrer: Wait. Let me jump in on that because that's also out of character for Gottheimer. Isn't it? He's trying to run a little bit to the right of some of the rest of the pack.

Nancy Solomon: This is the guy who started the Problem Solvers Caucus, which a lot of people thought was a good idea to try to create more civility and create a middle in Congress that could get things done on a bipartisan alliance. Really, he's voted much more conservatively than most Democrats want him to. I think what I've detected is a real pivot on his part, from it was all affordability, affordability, affordability, and I'm going to cut your taxes until maybe a month ago or so. Then things seemed to really pivot.

Now he's been talking a lot about Trump. I think you don't have to even be polling voters to see it. When I go to any event, I see just the concern is palpable among Democratic voters about what's happening in the country and about the president. The candidates, if they weren't already talking about it, which most of them were, they've really had to pivot because that's what voters want to hear. They want to hear, what are you going to do about President Trump?

Brian Lehrer: What about the Republican candidates? I'll note that Trump did not endorse the candidate considered the most MAGA in the race. Talk show host Bill Spadea he endorsed Jack Ciattarelli, who has changed his tune on Trump over time. Here's Trump in a virtual appearance at a Ciattarelli rally last week.

Trump: It's a big deal. It's being watched, actually, all over the world because New Jersey's ready to pop out of that blue horror show.

Brian Lehrer: Nancy, what's Ciattarelli's history? Was supporting Trump or not?

Nancy Solomon: In 2017-- got to get my years right here. In 2017 was the first time Jack Ciattarelli ran in the Republican primary for governor against Kim Guadagno, the lieutenant governor for Chris Christie. He lost that primary to Guadagno. During that particular campaign, he called Trump. Maybe he said this in 2016, I don't know exactly, but he called Trump a charlatan. He said he was embarrassing.

Jack Ciattarelli was always sort of known as a reasonable moderate Republican in the-- he was in the assembly, and he had a lot of respect for being a moderate. Of course, the moderate wing of the Republican Party in New Jersey is all but dead right now. He was a moderate, and he did oppose Trump. Then in 2021, he won the primary. He ran for governor. He came within 3 percentage points of beating Phil Murphy, which was a big shock.

In that election, he was a little more pro-Trump in the primary and tried to pivot away from him in the general. He never sought an endorsement and didn't get one. Yet I think what I've observed is that I see that Jack Ciattarelli has found success. I think we see this all over the country. He has found success with base Republican voters who respond to the like red meat, culture wars issues. As he has found success doing that, it encourages him to do it more. It makes sense, right?

Brian Lehrer: Yes.

Nancy Solomon: I've seen this progression of him moving more and more to the right. Now, this saved his campaign for Trump to have endorsed him. I think everyone pretty much seems to agree in the state that Ciattarelli is going to win the primary, and that Bill Spadea, his nearest competition, was sort of banking his candidacy on a Trump endorsement. The two men were closer. Trump went on-- Bill Spadea is a conservative talk radio host. The president, when he was a candidate, went on the show and like talked disparagingly about Ciattarelli.

Now we see Donald Trump endorsing Ciattarelli, which I think says a lot about what is going on in this race. I think the President wants a win in November. It's very important to him that the Republican wins so he can claim victory and support for his policies. He made a tactical decision to go with the guy who has the best chance of winning in the general. That's Jack Ciattarelli.

Brian Lehrer: If you're just joining us, we're talking about the New Jersey primary, with primary day tomorrow. Polls open from 6:00 AM to 8:00 PM. If you didn't already vote 212-433-WNYC. If you want to ask a question about any of the candidates in either party's primary, call or text 212-433-9692 with WNYC's Nancy Solomon. Let's go on to some other issues that you've identified as where the Democratic hopefuls disagree. One is on taxing people who earn more than $2 million. That's over and above the current so-called millionaire's tax. What's the issue?

Nancy Solomon: The state has a millionaire's tax. The tax rate doesn't go up over a million. I don't believe. I haven't actually checked this. For the most part, what the issue is about is saying, okay, there are a lot of people who make a lot more than a million, like many millions, if not a billion, in the state, and that they should have a higher tax rate. It pretty much skews if you were to lay out the Democratic primary candidates from left to right.

I'm not saying any of them are on the right. On the spectrum of Democrats from left to right, you have Baraka and Fulop on the left, who are calling for a more progressive tax system that would tax the ultra-super rich more. The other candidates don't say that and are less enthusiastic, I think. That's definitely an issue. I have talked to progressive activists here who say the reason they're supporting either Fulop or Baraka is because they like their position on taxing the rich.

Brian Lehrer: Any difference among the Republicans on that?

Nancy Solomon: No. They want to cut taxes. They just want to cut taxes for everybody. I don't think that they would consider raising taxes on wealthy people at all. Republicans fought the millionaire's tax. It is interesting that the things that the Democrats are fighting about there is no debate. There's such a huge difference between what the Democrats are talking about and what the Republicans want to do.

The divide that we've seen many years nationally has definitely taken real hold here. We've been there for a while, but it is like fully enforced now that the right wing of the Republican Party controls Republican politics in New Jersey and their positions are so far to the right of the Democrats that almost it's--

Brian Lehrer: It's interesting about not even having the same controversies. If you look at MSNBC and then you look at Fox, they're not just debating different sides of the same issues. They're often talking about different issues altogether. Some of that-

Nancy Solomon: Exactly.

Brian Lehrer: I think is what you're saying is reflected in New Jersey politics, like a lot of states' politics. On what you said, though, about the Republicans not disagreeing much on Trump positions, I wonder if this is an exception. This comes from a listener. Listener writes, "How do New Jersey Republican candidates justify going after business owners by arresting their workers and imposing tariffs on the goods they need to run their businesses?"

I'm going to assume that that's a Democratic listener based on the way the question was phrased. I'm going to assume there isn't that much difference on immigration. Tell me if I'm wrong. On the tariffs, a lot of Republicans are divided. When the listener asks imposing tariffs on the goods they need to run their businesses, business owners, do you know if that's come up at all among these Republican hopefuls?

Nancy Solomon: I don't know specifically about their positions on tariffs. I haven't focused in on that. Let's definitely talk about immigration in a moment. Let me just say that this whole campaign on the Republican side for the primary has all been about who can be more Trumpy and who can be more MAGA. You're not going to get candidates-- well, that's not true. Jon Bramnick is a never-Trumper and is a moderate. He just hasn't gotten any traction in the campaign. Between Ciattarelli and Spadea, there's been no daylight about to what extent they want to paint themselves as Trump Republicans.

I don't think you're going to get them criticizing tariffs because they were never going to get the Trump endorsement if they did that. Immigration is a fascinating one to pick apart because, okay, so what you have the Republican candidates say they would end sanctuary status in the state, they would make it illegal. They would cooperate fully with executing President Trump's mass deportation plan. That's the Republican side, and there's not a whole lot of daylight except Jon Bramnick putting him aside for a moment because he is true moderate. He's like one of the last moderate in the state legislature [unintelligible 00:19:07] Republicans.

Brian Lehrer: He's the never-Trump Republican polling at 2%.

Nancy Solomon: Yes, exactly. His candidacy tells you everything you need to know about the status of moderates in Republican Party in New Jersey. Otherwise years ago would have been a very strong candidate. You have that position on immigration on the Republican side. On the Democratic side this is one of the few issues where there really is a very discreet, concrete difference between the candidates.

The candidates that are further to the left, which is Baraka and Fulop, want to see the Attorney General's Immigrant Trust Directive, which is a policy that says that local law enforcement will not cooperate with ICE unless there's a crime being committed. Then they will intervene and arrest somebody, but only about crime, not about checking people's documents or pulling people over, that sort of thing.

Brian Lehrer: Interesting.

Nancy Solomon: That's the Immigrant Trust Directive. The candidates on the left want that made into law and say it's not enough to have a policy, they want a law. The candidates who are more moderate say this is something that is tested law because it was litigated, because there were conservative sheriffs in South Jersey who fought this and filed suit against the state and lost. Now the directive is actually enforceable. The moderate candidates say it doesn't need to be like Mikie Sherrill, say it doesn't need to be made into law.

In fact, it would be worse if it were made into law, because then these sheriffs would sue again. It would be a new issue. They would sue again. It would go ultimately to the Supreme Court, which we all know is much more conservative now, and they would lose. That's the argument. In fact, the Attorney General of the state, Matt Platkin, who probably has done more to fight Trump than any single individual in New Jersey because he's got several lawsuits against the Trump administration that are going through the courts and are considered very strong and very well argued.

He says it would be a mistake to make the immigrant trust directive for exactly the reasons Mikie Sherrill's been arguing to make it law. That it would be taken away ultimately instead of it being this policy that actually works.

Brian Lehrer: Another listener question on the Democratic side. Listener writes, "Most important question for me in tomorrow's primary, which Democrat has the best chance of winning the general election? I don't want a Republican governor," writes this listener. Are they running on electability explicitly? Any of them?

Nancy Solomon: Yes, they all talk about electability, but there are two different positions on electability, conflicting positions. One is the idea that the moderate candidates have a better chance of winning over independent voters who don't vote in the primary, but who are in great number in New Jersey. Just as a little reminder, I know you know this, Brian, but that there are about 800,000. It used to be a million. It's gotten smaller. There are about 800,000 more registered Democrats than Republicans.

The number of registered Democrats is just slightly higher than the number of registered independents. It's a huge voting bloc in the state. The establishment of the party really say, we need somebody. The preference is Mikie Sherrill, and she's leading in the polls. They say we need someone like Mikie Sherrill who can win in November. The progressives and leftists, not just the candidates, but also the activists and the campaign volunteers of the citizens who are really riled up about this election, say, no, we've been asked to vote for the moderate too many times.

They're talking about presidential elections. The folks who were upset that Bernie Sanders didn't win the primary in 2016, that he would have beat Donald Trump, those folks say, no, we're not doing it. We want either. Pick your choice, because Baraka, Ras Baraka, mayor of Newark, and Steve Fulop, mayor of Jersey City, are splitting that left-wing or progressive vote. They say that those are the candidates who can win in November by being true progressives and getting out-

Brian Lehrer: Inspiring people to show up.

Nancy Solomon: -the vote and getting people excited. Yes.

Brian Lehrer: I guess we should remember in that context, this is not to say the Philip and Baraka argument is necessarily right, but related is what happened in the presidential election in New Jersey last year. Nancy, tell me if you think I've got this right. The way we talked about it in November, just after the election, is that Trump came a lot closer in 2024, even though Harris won the state.

It was only by, I think, five or six points, a lot closer than Trump had come in his previous elections in New Jersey. When you break that down, he didn't really get any more votes in 2024 than he did in 2020. It was that so many people who voted Democrat in the past just didn't turn out. Turnout is a huge issue.

Nancy Solomon: Yes. No, I think you have it absolutely right. Turnout is a huge issue. Also, that does speak to the split in the Democratic Party and the inability of Democrats to build a big tent and to build a coalition. This past year, before the November election, last year, it fractured. There were a lot of people upset about Israel and Gaza who were upset with Biden and upset that Kamala Harris was sort of tied to his policies. There was that issue.

Yes, there were people who just were disappointed in Biden or disappointed that also people who didn't like the fact that there wasn't a primary election that gave people a choice. It was basically an anointment from Biden to Kamala Harris. There were a lot of issues that just didn't hold the coalition together. You got to also wonder about voters and a woman candidate, Mikie Sherrill, is the only woman running for governor right now.

Some of the vitriol about her it just feels a little familiar to the way that people talked about Kamala Harris, the way people talked about Hillary Clinton. Not all people, but some people. It makes me feel a little uncomfortable. I can't really articulate it beyond that, but it just feels so familiar, like what? When there's a woman running, there's just a whole bunch of people that will not vote for her.

Brian Lehrer: You mean it's not so much. Tell me if I'm interpreting you right. It's not so much, oh, I don't want to vote for a woman. I don't want there to be a woman governor. It's that the same things that would inspire one kind of reaction if a man was campaigning that way inspire a different reaction when a woman is.

Nancy Solomon: Yes. You articulated what I could not. Yes, that's exactly right.

Brian Lehrer: You were getting there. I just kept the sentence going. Bonnie in Montclair, you're on WNYC with our Nancy Solomon covering the New Jersey primary, which is tomorrow. Hi, Bonnie.

Bonnie: Hi. Hi. Thank you for taking my call. I'm a native New Yorker, and I'm fairly new to New Jersey, and I used to always hear people talking about the machine and about dirty New Jersey politics. Boy, I'm getting an education. I've been very involved with this election largely because of my despair and depression over what's going on nationally and my need to work towards something. It's been fascinating. I've gone to almost every panel discussion and seen all the candidates in action.

As far as I'm concerned, there's only one candidate who actually answers questions and who doesn't speak in platitudes. Also, my understanding of the job of being the governor is you need how to have executive management ability. There are two candidates that are mayors. I do not count Sean Spiller as a mayor because I live in Montclair, and I know what he did to my town, very frankly. When you look at the track records of Baraka and Fulop and you see the success story of Jersey City, that's very, very inspiring.

I believe that Fulop is the candidate who could beat Ciattarelli because Mikie Sherrill's been-- I voted for Mikie Sherrill. I want her to stay in Congress. I wish she would have voted on the big, bad, beautiful bill rather than being absent, because that affected it. I don't like that there are Congress people who want to give up their seats, very honestly.

Brian Lehrer: Because the Democratic Party might lose those seats in New Jersey.

Bonnie: Yes-

Brian Lehrer: That's why.

Bonnie: -because of that, because of the tendency. I think that's irresponsible to be doing that. The Democratic Party's been in a lot of trouble. I think people really do want change. I think the perception of being part of the machine and this claim that Ciattarelli has already made, that it's going to be you're voting for four more years of Murphy, is very effective and will happen. The only one they can't say that about is Fulop because he didn't go out seeking the endorsements of the Democratic groups. He's not aligned with them.

Brian Lehrer: Bonnie, let me leave it there. You put a lot on the table. I appreciate your call. One for Philip. I was hoping just to get questions about the candidates and the races today. I said at the top of the segment tomorrow, we will open it up for an informal, unofficial, thoroughly unscientific Brian Lehrer Show exit poll for those of you voting in the New Jersey primary in either party's election.

We're going to do that more explicitly tomorrow. There's one for Fulop. What about her argument, Nancy, that the members of Congress that would be Gottheimer and Sherrill, who would be vacating their seats if they're elected governor, leave the Democrats even more vulnerable to losing another seat in the very closely divided House of Representatives?

Nancy Solomon: I've heard what the caller had to say. I've heard from a lot, a lot of people. I hope we can spend some time picking apart all of it. As you wanted to, let's start with the two Congress members. Mikie Sherrill in 2018 defeated the Republicans in a Republican seat for her district, which is NJ 11. That seat flipped Republican to Democrat. It was a very, very purple district.

It voted for Trump in 2016 by a less than a percentage point, but still Trump won that congressional district. Then in 2021, there was redistricting, and the boundaries of NJ 11, Mikie Sherrill's district changed, and it became-- and this is gerrymandering. I don't know that you can blame her for it. It's the Democratic Party and the machines in New Jersey that gerrymandered very many districts, and that one became a safe--

Brian Lehrer: A safer Democratic seat.

Nancy Solomon: Yes, I would say safe, not just safer. I would say it is now a safe Democratic seat. For those who know Jersey, they added Maplewood and South Orange to the district and took away, like Milburn and a bunch of Republican towns. I don't know that that's a big problem. The idea that she would leave Congress and run for governor. It's funny, going back to what you--

Brian Lehrer: What about Gottheimer's district?

Nancy Solomon: Gottheimer's district is also safe pretty much. It has changed over the years. It was a Republican seat, but that was now-- well, I don't know, eight years ago or so. It's also pretty safe. I would say maybe not quite as safe as Sherrill's, but he's also not polling well. I don't know that he's going to win the primary.

Brian Lehrer: We're almost out of time. Let me get one more caller in here. Jim in Brick, you're on WNYC. Hi, Jim.

Jim: Hi. Well, I sort of object, I think Ms. Solomon's sort of disparaging either by actively or by neglect. I'm sorry. Sean Spiller he's on the left. His literature, which was also criticized when Ms. Solomon, who was on earlier is taking money from the teachers union. He's addressed the whole Nazi salute in his literature. Gottheimer is just doing the normal platitude of taxes. Yes, I know Ras Baraka did get arrested in Newark, but nobody else is really in what I've seen in their ads. You just have full up looking down at papers and Gottheimer doing lower taxes. I would discuss why are the ballots different in different areas.

Brian Lehrer: Too many questions for us to deal with all of them. I know that they did lotteries. Correct me if I'm wrong, Nancy, county by county, for the order in which the candidates are listed. Sean Spiller, do we minimize his chances at our peril? He's got this huge pot of union-related money.

Nancy Solomon: Well, this is what makes this primary so different from what we've seen in the past, and so interesting is that we have six candidates who all have a chance at winning this thing. They all have what pundits refer to as Elaine, and that is true. I apologize for neglecting him.

Brian Lehrer: Just for people who don't know, I'll just say he's the president of the State Teachers Union as well as a former mayor of Montclair. I think I read, correct me if I'm wrong, that he actually has had more money to spend than any of the Democratic primary candidates.

Nancy Solomon: He does because of that $40 million from the Teachers Union. He's raised less than everybody else when it comes to actually raising money from whatever-- anyone outside of that source of income of the way the Teachers Union is funding this. I don't think that Sean Spiller has been able to demonstrate a real like juice behind his candidacy. I'm not saying he doesn't have a shot at winning because there are a lot of teachers in the state, and he's got a lot of money. The ads and the mailers, they're just everywhere. He hasn't shown like-

Brian Lehrer: You never know.

Nancy Solomon: -a grassroots ability to win this election. I don't see teachers out there holding rallies for him. Before we end, can I just briefly talk about Steve Fulop to the caller before?

Brian Lehrer: Uh-huh.

Nancy Solomon: Steve Fulop his lane is that he's criticizing the political machines, and he's talking tough about political reform. He is super articulate. He comes across really well at the forums and debates, and campaign events. Voters have really taken to him. I agree with the Montclair caller about that. I would say to people, look at some of the news coverage of Steve Fulop because he has some skeletons or he's run into some problems, ethical problems.

For him to say that he's the guy who's going to bring us political reform, it raises a few questions in my mind. There's a problem with the vaccination contract in Jersey City that was super expensive. No bid contract, didn't reach as many people to give shots to as the county program did. That was in NJ Vindicator, a new nonprofit news publication in New Jersey. Look it up.

There are issues about his donations from real estate companies. Including the one that sold him his house in Jersey City, a $2 million house, and renovated his home in Rhode Island. That's in the Jersey City Times. Take a close look, folks who are supporting Steve Fulop. I think that this is the stuff that he's going to get hammered with if he wins the primary and goes on to the general in terms of what the Republicans are going to attack him on.

Brian Lehrer: All right, so primary day in New Jersey tomorrow for those of you who haven't voted already. Just so we engage as many listeners as possible who, you know, to let them know that they can vote tomorrow. Am I right that you don't have to be registered as a Democratic or Republican New Jerseyan to show up and vote in a primary tomorrow?

Nancy Solomon: Right. You have to be registered to vote. If you're an independent, you can-

Brian Lehrer: Pick your primary.

Nancy Solomon: -sign up for your party at the poll. Yes.

Brian Lehrer: Independents, that's a word to you. You can vote in these primaries tomorrow. It's different than in New York, even if you're not a registered Democrat or registered Republican. Nancy Solomon, as always, thanks for filling us in.

Nancy Solomon: Thanks, Brian.

 

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